The Nittany Turkey

Primarily about Penn State football, this is a tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Search This Site

Enter keyword(s) below to search for relevant articles.

  • Penn State Football
  • Mounjaro Update Catalog
  • Contact Us
  • About Us
Home 2013 January Archives for 7th

Archives for January 7, 2013

“A bunch of malarkey!” —Bill O’Brien

Posted on January 7, 2013 Written by The Nittany Turkey

Penn State head coach Bill O’Brien held his press conference this morning for the express purpose of dispelling rumors that we covered here last night. Approaching the matter directly, as has been his style all along, he declared that although he had conversations with a couple of NFL teams, he never asked for a raise, and furthermore, he has great respect for Penn State as an institution of higher learning and for his bosses, Rod Erickson and Dave Joyner.

So there, whiners! Do you believe it now, coming from the horse’s mouth, or are you going to continue to waste your time generating unfounded rumors purportedly in support of the man, which actually serve to denigrate his position and impugn his integrity? You “success at all costs” schmuckos are the problem. You’re what we need to get rid of before we even think of making personnel changes at Penn State. You’ve got way too much time on your hands, you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about, and you suck. And that’s just the message board pseudo-wonks. The credentialed media weenies add yet another layer of institutionalized bullshit.

Only one cup of coffee this morning while watching BoB’s presser, so I’m not as cranked up as I should be. But don’t stop me — I’m on a roll.

O’Brien clearly stated that he never asked for a raise anywhere, exhorting the assemblage of media representatives to ask Bill Belichick, Ted Roof, George O’Leary, and others if he had ever done so. Later, he said that if someone offered him a raise six months down the road, he’d take it, but with respect to using the NFL “offers” to leverage a raise, he declared that rumor “a bunch of malarkey.”

When asked if “anyone” had made a donation specifically aimed at increasing his salary, he brusquely replied, “No!” It has been widely reported that major booster Terry Pegula had committed $1.3 million to the Penn State athletic program to boost O’Brien’s salary in the interest of retaining him, in view of the NFL “offers.”

As for the NFL discussions, O’Brien stated several times that coaching in the NFL is the pinnacle of his profession, implying that eventually, he wants to wind up there. Each time, however, he added that he is fully committed to coaching at Penn State in 2013, and that he and his family love Penn State, the team, and the community. O’Brien admitted that his representative received expressions of interest from the NFL, and that he had conversations, but that is as far as it went.

O’Brien expressed complete faith in Rod Erickson and Dave Joyner, dismissing suggestions that he had made demands about making personnel changes above his station in the Penn State hierarchy. This turkey hopes that makes everyone happy — particularly those morons who would put Joyner in front of a firing squad just because they think that would be what it takes to retain O’Brien.

The coach was vague about what happens beyond next year. All he was willing to offer was that he won’t be coaching at Penn State 50 years from now. He sees himself coaching another 20 years, presumably some of those years in the NFL.

The subject moved on to recruiting, about which O’Brien couldn’t say much because of NCAA regulations. He wouldn’t get into the issue of Adam Breneman’s recovery.

He also demurred on the subject of Governor Tom Corbett’s lawsuit against the NCAA. I suppose the question had to be asked, but does any reporter in his or her right mind thing that O’Brien would have anything to say about that? I suppose they can make a big deal out of his refusal to talk about it now, and perhaps read something salacious into that.

On the football front, when asked if there were any academic eligibility issues with the team, O’Brien would only state that Curtis Dukes will not be with the team this year.

Internet message boards and mailing lists continue to serve a purpose, but folks, you have to apply the bullshit filter continuously when reading the unsubstantiated drivel that is flung about there. I’m not throwing stones. I believe that a lot of my reportage here is sloppy and poorly researched. However, when I am not sure about something, I flat-out state that it’s my opinion and you can take it or leave it. Misinformation abounds on the Internet, and we are all guilty of propagating unfounded rumors from time to time. These things develop legs of their own, and when they achieve a critical mass — go viral, so to speak — hysteria like last night is the result.

I hope we now can all move on to more productive channels. Leave the wild-ass rumors to David Jones and company,  whose horse squeeze this turkey will continue to view with a very jaundiced eye.

Full transcript of the press conference at gopsusports.com.

Share this:

  • Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window) Email
  • Post
  • Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Reddit
  • Click to print (Opens in new window) Print
  • More
  • Pocket
  • Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window) WhatsApp

Like this:

Like Loading...

Filed Under: Penn State Football Tagged With: Bill O'Brien, raise, Terry Pegula

Hysteria!

Posted on January 7, 2013 Written by The Nittany Turkey

Lots of fancy rumors are crackling through the crystalline Central Pennsylvania winter air, kimosabe! What are the drums saying and who flung poo?

Forgive me for my facetiousness — or don’t — but there are lots of versions of this stuff floating around and it might all turn out to be the pure, unmitigated, bullshitistic ministrations of some hysterical rumor mongers bent on selling newspapers, which in the end are good for nothing more than lining the bottom of the birdcage and wrapping fish.

Given that preface, let’s see whether this bowl of pasta is al dente. ???? ???? ????? Characterizing the rumors as linguini gives me a little better feeling about the purported morass.

Here are the primary bullets of the crap that’s floating around, as best I can gather.

  • Rod Erickson, who just received an $85,000 performance based compensation increase, is opposed to accepting the $1.3 million special gift committed to Penn State athletics by Terry Pegula, who committed the money (on top of over $100 million he donated to build the hockey arena) with the intent of keeping Bill O’Brien in the head coaching position. The money would be (or would have been) added to O’Brien’s salary for 2013, bringing his pay package to $3.6 million.
  • Erickson is also fighting to keep Dave Joyner as athletic director. O’Brien had apparently (and, of course, this is subject to the veracity or lack of same of  reports by — who else? — David Jones of the Harrisburg Patriot-News) asked for certain “structural and personnel changes in the Penn State athletic department.” Presumably, Joyner not continuing as AD was part of the deal. ???? bingo
  • O’Brien will hold a press conference Monday morning — or not, because OMG OMG they’re going to cancel it, say some of the hysterical crowd — with the intent of drawing the line indelibly in the sand about whether he will consider bolting or not.

So, let’s discuss, already!

I won’t discredit any of this completely. Consider that Penn State accepting booster money specifically directed at paying a football coach’s salary corroborates the Freeh Report and the NCAA characterization of a corrupt football-centric culture — and folks, ferchrissakes, we’re talking millions here. Message board geniuses are calling Erickson “ballsless” for what they perceive as cowardice, but methinks it requires fortitude to take a stand, if this is in fact what is happening.

Furthermore, if other reports are accurate, my perception is that whereas O’Brien has paid lip service to not being “a one-and-done” guy, why the hell would he interview with NFL teams if he had no intention of leaving? It doesn’t add up. Well, in my mind, it actually does add up to a well-played ploy to put the screws to Penn State, given that he had achieved great popularity among the alumni, players, and fans, and as icing on the cake, was Maxwell Coach of the Year. He and his agent had to think they had everything going for them, and could make pie-in-the-sky demands under the threat of bolting to the NFL. Again, I can only look at continuing reports with so much of a jaundiced eye before admitting the possibility that some truth exists there.

Yeah, I know. The not-so-gentle art of negotiation, you say. However, look at it from another angle. If Penn State succumbs to O’Brien’s demands, assuming that they are as represented, does it not demonstrate that the institution is placing an excessive emphasis on the football program? Think about it — I mean really think about it — with your brain, not your heart.

About Dave Joyner, it is not for me to say that he is competent as an athletic director or not. Let the “experts” on the message boards debate that. What I will say is that if Erickson wants to fight to keep Joyner as AD, that is his prerogative, and it requires more so-called balls than to roll over in the face of a football coach’s demands. The damn inmates cannot run the asylum. Last I heard, there was to be a national search run by a real search committee for the AD job. ????? ??????? Has that changed?

And, you know, everybody’s been talking about O’Brien’s “deal.” Doesn’t it take two parties to agree to a deal? Terry Pegula is not a party to the deal. Did Penn State actually ever agree to any of this?

Boy, am I reading some serious whining! “Erickson and Joyner will ruin the University!” LOL. Right. If O’Brien isn’t the coach next year, all of a sudden, who knows what will happen?  Penn State will necessarily fade into obscurity. Research funding will dry up, Old Main will crumble, and the elms will die. (OK, never mind the elms.)

Is any of this shit really happening? I have a good bullshit filter and so do most of you, but some impressionable people might actually believe all of this unsubstantiated garbage.

Of course, there are those denizens of the message boards who love to pass around wild-ass rumors because they crave attention. If in the p = .00001 chance that some of the gossip turns out to have any essence of truth, they immediately start rubbing in how well connected they are and how everybody should listen to them. If the rumors don’t pan out, we never hear from these yokels.

But I digress.

What the hell is going through simple minds that view Penn State only in terms of its football program? Shit, man, it’s just a couple of million, man. The University can afford it. Just pay the man so I can have fun watching football. Like, I don’t want to be associated with a university that can’t give its football coach what he wants! Waaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!

So, none of tonight’s rumors are necessarily even close to being founded, but in the case that they are, I wanted to say what I want to say. Go ahead and hate me for it. If I didn’t make my points clear enough above, let me shove them at you more succinctly:

  • It is probably not a good idea to give in to O’Brien’s demands, if indeed they are being accurately represented. I think you all agree that Joe Paterno wound up with too much power, amassed during his 60-year tenure at Penn State. To add insult to injury, ceding that level of control to a second-year coach would be absolutely ridiculous, especially given the criticism by the Freeh Report and the NCAA of the dominant football culture at Penn State. O’Brien did not endow the library, create scholarship and academic assistance programs, raise literally billions of dollars for the university, or do anything other than coach a football team to a 8-4 record in a single year of tenure. O’Brien is not Joe Paterno. Think about it. Repeating the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is the definition of insanity, according to the musings of Albert Einstein. Why is O’Brien worth a big bump in salary for which the university sells out to a booster, and why should the University cotton to his demands about whom his superiors should be and how they should run the athletic department? Isn’t that yielding “just a little too much” control to the man? (Irony intended.)
  • Why should we support O’Brien’s heavy-handed negotiation (again, if the stories are accurate) while condemning the steamroller job Emmert did on Erickson? Because we “like” O’Brien, but we don’t like Emmert and Erickson? Puerile, to say the least. Those who have the upper hand tend to come out ahead in these situations. Sometimes, the old maxim holds, that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In this case, the “power” is in O’Brien’s threatening to leave Penn State football high and dry. When you view that on the scale of zero to all we’ve been through over the past 14 months, it isn’t much of a threat, now, is it?
  • Corbett’s lawsuit attempts to pooh-pooh the whole “corrupt football culture” notion. If the University gives in to O’Brien, how can anyone in his or her right mind deny the existence of such a culture?

So, let me hear from you on this one. I’ve been struggling with the O’Brien “negotiations” all week. I enjoyed his successes with the team as well as the rest of you; however, I’m not willing to hand him the keys to the castle. Neither do I believe everything I read about it. In my heart of hearts, I must say that I don’t believe that O’Brien ever made those demands. Media “wonks” being what they are, lots of embellishment and vagueness has fanned some serious flames. It’ll all come out eventually.

Given all the flailing going on via tweets on Twitter as well as a plethora of inflammatory posts on various message boards, this all could change hourly. Stay tuned for more fun!

The O’Brien press conference will (or won’t! — LMFAO!!) take place at 9 am ET and it will be carried on BTN/BTN2Go.

Share this:

  • Tweet
  • Email
  • More
  • Print
  • Share on Tumblr
  • Pocket
  • WhatsApp

Share this:

  • Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window) Email
  • Post
  • Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Reddit
  • Click to print (Opens in new window) Print
  • More
  • Pocket
  • Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window) WhatsApp

Like this:

Like Loading...

Filed Under: Penn State Football Tagged With: Bill O'Brien, Dave Joyner, Rod Erickson, Terry Pegula

Subscribe to Blog via Email

Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.

Join 70 other subscribers

Recent Comments

  • Elizabeth Ellen Harris on Week 54 Mounjaro Update: A Turkey’s Medical Marathon
  • The Nittany Turkey on Week 54 Mounjaro Update: A Turkey’s Medical Marathon
  • Lizard on Week 54 Mounjaro Update: A Turkey’s Medical Marathon
  • Week 54 Mounjaro Update: A Turkey's Medical Marathon - The Nittany Turkey on Week 53 Mounjaro Update: Jacked Lab Monkeys & Med Purgatory
  • Week 53 Mounjaro Update: Jacked Lab Monkeys & Med Purgatory - The Nittany Turkey on Week 51 Mounjaro Update: Wake Up and Smell the Coffee!

Latest Posts

  • Week 55 Mounjaro Update: We’re the Drug Cops and We’re Here to Help! June 23, 2025
  • Week 54 Mounjaro Update: A Turkey’s Medical Marathon June 16, 2025
  • Week 53 Mounjaro Update: Jacked Lab Monkeys & Med Purgatory June 9, 2025
  • Week 52 Mounjaro Update: Steroid Shot Sparks Spooky Sugar Spike June 2, 2025
  • Week 51 Mounjaro Update: Wake Up and Smell the Coffee! May 27, 2025

Penn State Blogroll

  • Black Shoe Diaries
  • Onward State
  • The Lion's Den
  • Victory Bell Rings

Friends' Blogs

  • The Eye Life

Penn State Football Links

  • Bleacher Report: Penn State Football
  • Blue White Illustrated
  • Lions247
  • Nittany Anthology
  • Penn State Sports
  • PennLive.com
  • The Digital Collegian

Whodat Turkey?

The Nittany Turkey is a retired techno-geek who thinks he knows something about Penn State football and everything else in the world. If there's a topic, we have an opinion on it, and you know what "they" say about opinions! Most of what is posted here involves a heavy dose of hip-shooting conjecture, but unlike some other blogs, we don't represent it as fact. Read More…

  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • LinkedIn
  • Pinterest
  • RSS
  • Twitter

Subscribe via Email

Enter your email address to subscribe to the Nittany Turkey and receive notifications of new posts by email.

Join 70 other subscribers
January 2013
S M T W T F S
 12345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
2728293031  
« Dec   Feb »

Archives

Categories

Meta

  • Log in
  • Entries feed
  • Comments feed
  • WordPress.org

Copyright © 2025 · Focus Pro Theme on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in

%d