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Paterno Family Miffed about Emails

Posted on July 3, 2012 Written by The Nittany Turkey

The recently publicized “leaked” emails between Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, and Graham Spanier, first alluded to in an NBC News report and later released in greater detail by CNN are raising the hackles of the Paterno family.

“No one has claimed to have found—nor will they find—evidence in writing from Joe Paterno that suggests he was involved in a cover-up.” —TNT

One could infer from the emails that a conversation between Joe Paterno and Tim Curley caused a change in plans to report the Jerry Sandusky child molestations to outside authorities, essentially initiating a cover-up by sweeping details under the fine wool rug in Old Main.

However, the family claims through its attorney Wick Sollers, that sporadic emails taken out of context do not implicate the late Mr. Paterno. Furthermore, they have no idea who might be responsible for the leaks, which also suggest that Spanier, Curley, and Schultz violated their responsibility to report the incidents.

Spanier had previously said he knew nothing of it, which was a lie. He did not testify before the grand jury that investigated the Sandusky allegations at the time. Curley and Schultz did, and they’re under indictment for perjury. Their pre-trial hearing will take place on July 11 in Harrisburg.

The Paterno family issued the following statement about the emails:

From the moment the Jerry Sandusky crisis erupted, Joe Paterno patiently and persistently called for a thorough and professional investigation.  He abhorred the rush to judgment that occurred last November and he spoke out forcefully for a comprehensive review that protected no one while preserving due process for everyone.  Coach Paterno emphasized that the best way to serve the victims and protect the reputation of Penn State was by a total commitment to uncovering the full truth.

With the leaking of selective emails over the last few days, it is clear that someone in a position of authority is not interested in a fair or thorough investigation. To be clear, the Paterno family does not know the source or sources of these leaks.  The question that needs to be asked is why this breach of confidentiality, which seeks to preempt the Freeh report and undermine the courts, is not being objected to or otherwise addressed by those in a position of authority. It should not be the responsibility of the Paterno family to call for an honest, independent investigation. Given the seriousness and complexity of this case, everyone should be demanding the full truth, not just carefully selected excerpts of certain emails.

Releasing these emails in this way is not intended to inform the discussion but to smear former Penn State officials, including Joe Paterno. The truth is Joe Paterno reported the 2001 incident promptly and fully. He was interviewed by the Grand Jury for a total of 8 minutes and told the truth to the best of his recollection. He was never interviewed by the University. He was not afforded due process and his story was never fully told.  And he was never allowed to see the files and records that are now in question. In spite of these facts, however, numerous pundits and critics are exploiting these disconnected and distorted records to attack Joe Paterno.

Accordingly, the Paterno family today is calling on the Freeh Group and the Attorney General’s office to immediately release all emails and records they have related to this case. The public should not have to try and piece together a story from a few records that have been selected in a calculated way to manipulate public opinion. Joe Paterno didn’t fear the truth, he sought the truth. His guidance to his family and his advisors was to pursue the full truth.  This is the course we have followed for 9 months. It is the course we will follow to the end.

We here at the Turkey have to once again question who leaked the emails and what was the motivation for doing so. One commenter made an interesting suggestion that the attention benefited CNN, whose ratings were down. It is highly doubtful that CNN invented the emails, though. A temporary increase in ratings would certainly eventually blow up in their faces, leaving the proverbial egg dripping from their nose and chin. Assuming they’re not that stupid over there in Atlanta, we’re still left with the question: Who leaked them, and why? The “why” could be simply money, but the “who” is anybody’s guess at the moment.

Assuming that the Freeh panel had them in its possession, anyone on that investigative body could be culpable. Moreover, someone at Penn State had to supply the emails to the investigation. Finally, Curley and Schultz could have kept archival copies of their own emails. What could their motivation be? Perhaps to deflect blame from them to Spanier. They could claim that they were operating under Spanier’s orders when they initiated the cover-up and when they lied about what they knew before the grand jury.

Spanier tried to get his hands on his emails from 1998 through 2004, believing no doubt that they would be used by the Freeh committee in its investigation. He was told by the university that nothing existed before 2004. Later, he discovered that the earlier emails actually existed. In May, he filed a civil suit against Penn State asking for the emails to be given to him. The university has not taken any action.

It seems to this Turkey that where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Spanier must have been involved in email exchanges that implicated him in one or more phases of the scandal. Once the Freeh report is presented, Spanier will potentially have to defend himself against any charges that might result. It is interesting that he wanted to go back to 1998, which was the time of an earlier incident in which Sandusky actually confessed to a victim’s mother with the police listening in. McQueary reported the infamous shower incident three years later, in 2001.

Joe Paterno never left much of an audit trail behind him. He eschewed modern devices, so he used neither email nor cell phones. He once referred to Twitter as “Tweedle Dum Tweedle Dee.” No one has claimed to have found—nor will they find—evidence in writing from Joe Paterno that suggests he was involved in a cover-up.

We will need to be patient and wait another few weeks for the Freeh report. Until someone issues some kind of an official report, we’re still premature in judging the individuals involved. Except Sandusky, that is. He has been convicted of 45 counts, with little chance of ever being a free man again during his lifetime.

 

A few related stories:

Justice in Penn State case should come from courts, not NCAA

Paterno Family Wants Freeh, Attorney General’s Office to Release All Emails and Records

Former Penn State coach Joe Paterno’s family lashes out at email leaks in new statement

 

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Filed Under: Penn State Football, Penn State Scandal Tagged With: football, Gary Schultz, Graham Spanier, Joe Paterno, Louis Freeh, Paterno family, Penn State, scandal, Tim Curley

Capital Punishment for PSU Football?

Posted on July 1, 2012 Written by The Nittany Turkey

There’s a lot of talk floating around about whether Penn State should receive the NCAA “death penalty” for the Sandusky pedophilia morass. Naturally, the PSU haters trolling blogs and message boards on the Internet are rooting for Penn State to lose its football program for a year, or in the extreme case, permanently. The big question is going to up to the NCAA to decide, not on the basis of visceral reaction, but on fair and just application of its rules.

“The case for the death penalty for PSU football appears to be a little more salient now that we’ve painted a picture of an institution out of control without a properly functioning administrative hierarchy.” —TNT

The NCAA has been investigating Penn State since Sandusky, Curley, and Schultz were charged with felonies. “Institutional oversight” of the football program is at the core of the probe. Heretofore, NCAA had indicated that it would await the results of the Louis Freeh investigation before arriving at its own conclusions.

Institutional control of the football program? I suppose that comes down to wherein ultimate control of PSU football was invested. I think that we all know where that was: Joe Paterno. Oh, sure, some of us who live in denial (mostly crocodiles live in de Nile) would proffer that Paterno had a boss (Tim Curley), who in turn had a boss (Graham Spanier); however, they know in their heart of hearts that this was never true.

One need go no farther than the 2004 episode in which Spanier and Curley showed up at Paterno’s door, intent on firing him after several lousy seasons of football. Paterno told them he wasn’t going anywhere and sent them home with their tails between their legs. The cowardly Lion (Spanier) and the brainless scarecrow (Curley) had failed in their attempt to assert their leadership over Paterno, which would never again exist.

In view of recent findings, namely the emails between Curley, Schultz, and Spanier from 2001, which implied that the plan, which originally was to censure Sandusky and report the sexual molestation to authorities, changed when Curley discussed the matter with Paterno, who “convinced” his “boss” to keep the matter internal. Curley, who in this Turkey’s opinion was always Joe’s sycophant from the time he was a ball boy, communicated with the cowardly Spanier, who wishy-washily concurred but added that he was “concerned” about vulnerability.

In an earlier post, this Turkey wondered whether there was a connection between the rebuffed dismissal attempt in 2004 and the Sandusky case. In other words, if Joe was fired, he could blow the thing wide open and blame his bosses, who technically were in charge of the program at the time. There is no record of Paterno having done anything at all, except via hearsay implication in an email from Curley to Spanier. But I digress.

There is no doubt in my mind anymore that Paterno called the shots with regard to the Sandusky cover-up. I had deluded myself into thinking that he was morally wrong to not report the incident to the police when no one else did, but that he had followed the law and university policy in reporting it to his superior. I was wrong. If the leaked email is authentic, then Paterno actually called for the cover-up in spite of a plan to go public with it by his supposed superiors — and got away with it. Who ran the football program? Paterno. No one else. His “superiors” essentially reported to him.

So, will the NCAA mete out the “death penalty”, which has been levied on a Division I football program only once before, to SMU in 1987? That institution was punished for massive rules infractions, especially with respect to paying players. The case for the death penalty for PSU football appears to be a little more salient now that we’ve painted a picture of an institution out of control without a properly functioning administrative hierarchy. The leaked emails no doubt added fuel to the fire.

Those who are interested in retribution and vindication will no doubt construct rationalizations in justification of the maximum penalty for Penn State, but that won’t help the victims one iota. In fact, it could hurt their civil cases against Penn State if a plethora of punishment started to garner public sympathy for Penn State. There will be none from the haters, I know, but perhaps the thinking public will begin thinking “enough is enough” at some point.

To hell with football, anyway. Let’s do what we can to restore decent lives for the victims.

What do legal experts have to say about the possibility of a stiff punishment, up to and including the death penalty, for PSU? The lovely Stefanie Loh of the Patriot-News interviewed several.

An AP story published today, “PSU Football Doesn’t Deserve Death Penalty” opines that it is not appropriate punishment.

Those of us who live, eat, sleep, and drink Penn State football might possibly require life support if capital punishment is meted out to Dear Old State. It took SMU 20 years before they could assemble a team that could play at a decent level after their football blackout. If this happens to PSU, many of us will become zombies.

 

 

 

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Filed Under: Penn State Football, Penn State Scandal Tagged With: Curley, death penalty, Joe Paterno, NCAA, Sandusky, Spanier

Scapegoating to the Max

Posted on June 24, 2012 Written by The Nittany Turkey

A mere 36 hours after Jerry Sandusky’s conviction, the anti-Paterno legions are growing vocal, demanding to tear down Joe’s statue outside Beaver Stadium in return for his allegedly facilitating Sandusky’s disgustingly illegal conduct through the years. I’ll neither defend nor condemn the late head coach here. The pending investigations will determine the extent of his involvement. I’ll merely ask for sanity to prevail. I’ve had to do this too much these days as simple people seem to want to take the simple expedient of rushing to judgement to obtain their simple personal vindication. But real life just ain’t that easy.

All the headline making cases that have come up lately bring these crazies out of the woodwork. They want to convict people because they want to convict people, and they believe they know better than anyone else what should be done. It was like that for Trayvon Martin and Casey Anthony, just to name a couple of cases close to home. These people hide their ignorance of specifics behind the shield of self-righteousness, and inevitably come off looking like fools. When the justice system eventually has done its work, we mostly see that these fools were wrong, and then we never hear from them again. They have no voice in the matter, so they have to make noise. They have no patience, so they have to rattle the cages of anyone who is stupid enough to give them a forum.

The fact is that these people have no idea how deeply Paterno was involved in allowing Sandusky to operate. Graham Spanier might well be the one they should be hanging in effigy. As University President, he could have easily given the gag order on all things Sandusky. He could have threatened everyone else with their jobs if they didn’t agree to sweep the matter under a rug. Ultimately, Spanier is in charge, and even if he knew nothing, he should be held accountable. We don’t know what Paterno knew, either, but Curley and Spanier were his superiors. The whole cover-up thing was not just Joe’s idea. That’s for sure. It might have been the case that Paterno did his job by reporting the incident to his superiors. As he said, in retrospect he should have done more, but that is no reason to pin the whole shebang on him. Culpable for his share of it, sure, but not for the entirety of it, you know damn well that Joe wouldn’t have been so stupid as to be solely responsible. Any idiot, even an egotistical one, who works in a university any length of time knows how to play the CYA game. And we know that Paterno briefed Curley.

This morning, a friend posted a simple question on Facebook: “Should the statue of Joe Paterno at Beaver Stadium come down?” I was flabbergasted by some of the affirmative responses. Several investigations are pending, Paterno has heretofore not been charged with anything or flat out blamed by anyone in a position to have pointed the finger, and it is likely that the culpable negligence will be spread across several high ranking Penn State officials; however, these loudmouthed cowards of the Internet have to “share” their opinions with anyone who will listen, as if they personally knew what went on at Penn State. Some of them have undoubtedly never even visited the campus. Who knows what is the reason for their schadenfreude, but it is always defended from the highest peak of moral rectitude: the chillllllllllldren.

In the immortal words of Joseph V. Paterno uttered frequently at his press conferences, “You guys don’t know what you’re talking about!”

Here are some of the dumbass comments:

“Absolutely
2 national championships
Most div 1 wins
All 4 majors bowls
Many kid molested
They are all Jopa’s legacy”

Don’t forget $5 million donated to the university and countless underprivileged kids helped to become first class citizens at the behest of Joe and Sue.

“his statue should come down….give him a plaque in the shower room! for anyone to consider football more important than a child is just rediculous to me! ooo gosh I have STRONG opinions about this!”

I hope your body odor is not as strong as your opinions, but remember, opinions are like assholes: we all have to have one and they all stink. You not only want to chastise us for “[considering] football more important than a child”, as if we are condoning Sandusky’s actions if we dare suggest that Paterno’s statue should stay, but also you have to tell us that you have strong opinions, just in case we hadn’t noticed. In other words, “Congratulations, self! You’re so wonderful! You just saved all these children all by yourself!” What a winner!

“All u ‘We Are’ people are turning a blind eye to ur black eye. Paterno was psu for 50 years. The buck stopped there. The jer had access to school facilities for years after his ‘retirement’. If ur [son] was a victim ‘you’d want the lion’ to rip joepa from limb to limb.

So, you’ve taken up the cause as the victims’ surrogate parent? No Penn State homey in his or her right mind is turning a blind eye. We’re all embarrassed about Sandusky and those who were responsible for enabling his activities. We’re all sorry that all of this happened. We have shed tears for the victims and for Dear Old State. However, we’re not rushing to judgment about Paterno being the one and only responsible party and we refuse to join the hysterical lynch mob that wishes conduct a pre-emptive Depaternoization campaign (c.f. Khruschev, Nikita, Destalinization for Fun and Profit, (Moscow: CCCP Publications, 1956)).

“After they tear down the statue, they can give Mrs. Paterno Joe’s millions that he donated to the school.”

Joe and Sue donated that money together, willingly. What does your stupid suggestion imply? That they bought off university officials to ensure that they were sycophants to Joe and would cover for him? Surely, Joe wielded loads of influence with the administration and the BoT because of his billion dollar external fund raising for the University, which dwarfed the several million he and Sue donated unbegrudgingly and with no strings. You forgot to demand that Paterno’s name be taken off the library, too. That’s probably because you had no idea that his name was on the library, and for that matter, you wouldn’t know Rec Hall from Galen Hall.

“they can send his money to the children who were intentionally abused for the sake of FOOTBALL and the Paterno reputation!”

Another moronic suggestion. This is about as likely to occur as Santa Claus coming in July. Listen here, dumbass, none of us want to see children molested! Some of us are football fans. The two notions can mix. Are you saying that every football coach, player, and fan has blood on his or her hands?

These hysterical and self-serving comments are typical of a segment of the population in this country today. They want things to happen right away, fair or unfair. That’s how we elect presidents who promise “change” and deliver nothing. People want instant gratification. They want their scapegoat. What happens when they get what they want? Well, the fun for them is over, so they go after the next guy, fair or unfair. Nothing but hypocrisy.

With Sandusky put away, Paterno is the next target. If Paterno’s memory is suitably besmirched for these yokels, then maybe they’ll go after Spanier. But they never will be satisfied until they play the blame game all the way to the destruction of the institution itself. That’s the way the small minds work.

The institution has suffered enough destruction and will be dragged through the mud while pending investigations and present and future criminal and civil cases are tried and adjudicated. We should all be working toward rebuilding its reputation and restoring its rich tradition. Instead, the schadenfreude brigade will not be satisfied until the University is penalized by the NCAA and the Federal Government, while being sued into bankruptcy by the families of the victims.

I was watching Twitter while waiting for the Sandusky verdict Friday night. Twitterites were impatiently tweeting crap like, “What’s taking so long? He’s guilty. This should be a slam-dunk for any jury.” First of all, anyone who writes garbage like that probably has never sat on a jury of any consequence, if they’ve even sat on a jury at all. Beyond that, this type of mob psychology is nothing short of lynch mob mentality. Most of us believed that Sandusky was guilty, but  damn few of us were content to let the justice system run its course. I am pleased with the outcome, but unhappy that a dangerous mob element exists in our society. If the trial were in Chicago or Atlanta instead of Bellefonte, it might have become violent.

I want people to reel themselves in and be sane again. Sure, we’ve all suffered wounds because of the perverted actions of the deranged tickle monster; we “We Are Penn State” alums and associates have suffered greater wounds than the rest (or is this partially OUR fault, too?). Think! Think long and hard about how petty and vindictive you are to call for taking Paterno’s statue down before the completion of any of the pending investigations. Let Joe rest in peace for a while, let his family have a quiet moment, and wait until you know what the hell actually happened before you blow wind straight out your ass!

We Are — Still and Forever!

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